Monday, September 08, 2008

Odd

In his statement today (see the post below), Gordon Brown refers to "David Cameron's Conservatives" as if they were three words he could barely spit out. Nick Clegg today refers to "David Cameron's Tories" in a press release. Normally, a political party will only use the party leader's name in conjunction with the party if they think it can be used in a pejorative manner. Why would they they do this when David Cameron is more popular than his own party? Seems a bit odd to me.

And Nick Clegg really does take the biscuit for this quote...

Meanwhile, it seems clear that David Cameron’s Tories are still set on blaming struggling families for their problems rather then helping them.
Er, how exactly?

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nick Clegg is a bit like Neil kinnock in my opinion.

King Athelstan said...

How about "Jocky McBroons New Liebour Circus" or "Nick Cleggs LibDumbs Who They?"

Anonymous said...

Didn't a by election show the candidate as being in David Cameron's Conservative Party?

If I am right then they are only using what Cameron has, obviously, authorised. They are trying a tactic, I would say that it has been done behind the scenes by both parties, to make ordinary voters worry about voting for David Cameron.

Actually, if David Cameron's Conservatives were to win the election he would have the greatest mandate a leader ever had....think about it.

Labour and Lib Dems have scored one massive own goal.

People will go for David Cameron's Conservative Party! (especially if he takes up Guido's excellent suggestion of dropping VAT on Home Fuel!!)

Instead of knocking this they should just smile.

Oscar Miller said...

Iain - I think it's because Brown and Clegg both personally loathe Cameron and are arrogant enough to believe everyone else thinks like they do - despite the opinion polls. Rather like the reaction to Sarah Palin by the liberal/left media, they have become so insular and smug in their thinking they can't begin to understand how people outside the political classes really see them. That's one of the things that makes both these lameduck leaders such bad politicians. It's not a mistake Tony Blair would have made.

Laurence Boyce said...

"Normally, a political party will only use the party leader's name in conjunction with the party if they think it can be used in a pejorative manner. Why would they they do this when David Cameron is more popular than his own party?"

Just force of habit I guess?

Anonymous said...

More to the point Iain, can you give your opinions on the BBC's reporting today of the cabinet meeting in Birmingham, the various members of the cabinet visiting the Midland's various organs of the state and their stomach-turning gushing about all the trials and tribulations The Great Leader has overcome?

Is the BBC central to his fifth (or is it sixth?) relaunch and how much of his dirty work will they be prepared to do?

Oh... and Nick Clegg is an irrelevance. Whoever he is...

Man in a Shed said...

I get the feeling that the Cleggoid is having a bit of a breakdown these days - cancelling his Ocado order just like the proles etc ...

I bet he's not looking forward to his party conference.

Anonymous said...

A crucial part of the Tory strategy is to get people thinking that they are voting for Cameron, not the Tories.

So a crucial part of the other side's strategy has to be to remind people what they're getting.

Seems very sensible of Clegg and Brown to me. Tory and Conservative remain pejorative terms and use of them will taint the Cameron brand.

Ben Gray said...

Meanwhile, it seems clear that Nick Clegg's LibDems are still set on blaming David Cameron's Tories for their problems rather than helping struggling families.

Tapestry said...

A double whammy.

Bankrupt as regards money.

Now bankrupt as regards ideas too.

This writing is really elementary, my dear Gordon.

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile, it seems clear that David Cameron’s Tories are still set on blaming struggling families for their problems rather then helping them.

There is a great element of truth in the notion that the android masses are responsible for their own current financial predicament.

After all who was responsible for taking on an excess of personal debt? Why the morons who forgot that debts have to be repaid and that all good times come to an end, especially economic ones that are fuelled by debt and speculation on housing price bubbles. It all reeks of a failure to face up to fiscal and personal responsibilities, whilst trying to allocate the blame anywhere but where it's due, being in this case squarely with the individuals in financial shit.

Of course you can equally level the same comments at the government and the causes of the national fiscal mess we currently reside in.

Simon Lamb said...

It must remind Brown of those long-forgotten days when Labour managed to hold onto one of their safest seats - Southall - and were able to spin it as a great victory and a disaster for 'David Cameron's Conservatives'.
From our perspective, it ended the 15 year trend when anyone voting against the government at a by election would vote for the Liberals. Crewe may not have happened but for Southall.

Anonymous said...

Ninja wisdom:

Heaven helps those who help themselves, and luck favours the prepared.

Ted Foan said...

Thanks for pointing this out Iain. I shall in future refer to Gordon Brown's/David Miliband's/Charles Clarke's Labour Party.


As for the Liberals, I will continue, for the time being at any rate, refer to them as Nick Clegg's bunch of no-hopers.

Anonymous said...

Iain - bear in mind that Cameron is still only credible in the south of England. In the North and in Scotland he is still seen as the Etonian who has no understanding of the pressures of family life.

Anonymous said...

captain haddock spluttered: ...Cameron is still only credible in the south of England. In the North and in Scotland he is still seen as the Etonian...

The south of England is Britain. Sorry-ass losers in Scotland and oop north can go hang. It's time we had a government which represented most of us, not just a few of them.

Anonymous said...

The south of England is Britain. Sorry-ass losers in Scotland and oop north can go hang. It's time we had a government which represented most of us, not just a few of them.


Now wouldn't that be great for Tory campaign strategy? Oh, it already is! Try winning a majority on the south alone!

Nich Starling said...

I was out last weekend with a group of people of around 30 years old. Someone said "Nich's a wannabe MP", to which someone asked "your'e not one of that arsehole Cameron's mob are you"., at which point a few other all waded in with how much they disliked him.

Fool yourself that he is popular. he may be more popular than the other leaders, but that will soon change.